Cameras on RC aircraft might become illegal!!!

by flyboymaxwell | February 11, 2013 | (9) Posted in Tips

It might become illegal to have a camera on an RC aircraft!


I don't have much to say, but these videos explain what's going down, and its not good!

Oregon Senate has drafted bill 71 that will make FPV illegal! These are some video responses towardes it.

We need to take action before its to late!

 


COMMENTS

Adib Vahedi on February 12, 2013
Wow that is so terrible at least I live in Canada so I can still fly FPV but for the Americans I don't know what I could do to help but keep complaining and signing petitions! ;(

Keep up the sighing and scream at them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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flyboymaxwell on February 12, 2013
I live in Canada to, and there starting to talk about it here too. "16x9" a TV show up here just did an episode about "Drones" they got talking about the "A.R. Drone" and how they were able to buy one for $300, and someone could fly it over a fence and look in the windows of someones house and video record it.

Another reason we should be concern about it even if we don't live in the US is that if it becomes illegal there it could become illegal where you live soon after.
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LanMark on February 12, 2013
I think the title is misleading on this.. as it is more than just FPV. What is up with these crazy lawmakers that think we need to create new laws when we ALREADY HAVE PRIVACY LAWS ON THE BOOKS in all states... this senate bill seems to just be a crazy person's bill that oversteps the bounds of pricacy rights.

I live in Iowa and I really hope something like this is not at all considered.. I have been doing research in agriculture crop analysis using UAVs.. such as vegation stress analysis and other very applicatable technologies to greatly benefit our state's biggest export... which is crops. You can't do this type of analysis if you can't fly a camera.
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LanMark on February 12, 2013
So let me get this straight.. they want to make a bill banning cameras on remote controlled planes but they don't also ban them on airplanes or ultralights or any other flying craft??? interesting. Why the heck don't they just re-enforce existing privacy laws. Seriously WTF.
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Gruardian 388 on February 12, 2013


As A FPV community we need form our own organization to help protect us from such laws. As a formed group we can then educated law makers and protect our selfs and be view in the public eye as not a menace.

This is how such groups and many more came about. NRA, AMA, NAMBA, NHRA, NASCAR etc.

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3zuli on February 12, 2013
Ok, so first they ban us from having our own simple, small, cheap and safe RC "drones" and right next after that they push laws allowing the government to use their own drones. Real big military drones with hi-res surveillance cameras, surveillance equipment and capable of carrying real, highly dangerous weapons. Instead of your neighbor, the U.S. government will be spying on you. Don't you like it? :D
I'm glad that I don't live in U.S. However if there's going to be a international FPV organization, I'm definitely joining.
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smit6089 on February 13, 2013
While I do not completely agree with the wording of this petition, here is somewhere we can give a little start. It's not much but it is something.

https://www.change.org/petitions/oregon-senate-bill-71-protect-the-rc-hobby-aerial-photography-and-fpv-communities
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flyboymaxwell on February 13, 2013
Thank you for the link smit6089!!!!!!!!
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liveyourdreamsRC on February 13, 2013
Man FPV is already got some stuff tieing it down like having to have a spotter. People need to looke at the FAA and AMA rules before they start trying to go all extreme when they don't need to. Does anyone know where exactly these laws are trying to be passed?
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liveyourdreamsRC on February 13, 2013
I agree with the videos completely! I liked the first vid's idea of making an international FPV assosiation. I think that would give us more freedoms and also protect us from things like this.
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Pillip Flop on February 13, 2013
I fear we may already be living in the golden age of FPV. The ability to explore the skies through the eyes of a bird in real time and in complete control could easily become a thing of the past. I already feel the easy access and freedom to use this brilliant technology is too good to be true. But making an entire genre of photography illegal because you’re a bit paranoid about your sexuality is an arrogant and embarrassing misuse of power. Here in the UK I feel lucky. But I fear it’s ‘just a matter of time. A couple of years from now we`ll be watching all this beautiful FPV footage through misty eyes, our jaws on the floor wishing that we had done more FPV while we had the chance. I hope I`m Wrong.
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Jeffrey Saelee on February 13, 2013
So making FPV illegal will stop people from spying with FPV? hmm, let's make cocaine illegal too!
if someone's gonna spy, they aren't gonna obey the no-cam-on-RC-aircraft law either.
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stephen on February 15, 2013
Jeffrey's comment is so true. Here in Australia guns laws haven't stopped drive by shooting in Sydney and whenever they catch these idiots they have unregistered illegal guns anyway. My point being the type of people that might do stupid or dangerous things with rc and cameras aren't going to be swayed by new laws. As in America Australia already has privacy laws that would cover video or photo taking of your neighbors etc. Gone are the days you can even take a camera to the beach to few pics without some suspicion of what you are taking pictures of.
Paranoia is what it's all about and we can thank the media for the sensationalist stories they now pedal (never let the truth get in the way of a good story). In Australia recently during our annual summer high fire season, we now call it catastrophic not just high. OMG where to from here, I no Phantasmagorical!!! Just my 2 cents worth Cheers everyone
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Taskforce1x1 on February 22, 2013
Here is what the AMA says about FPV privacy. Its a positive note to this issue.
Understand that the "Liberal anti-American left" is constantly taking away our American rights in small increments till we have no freedoms at all. Please read what AMA has to say:


REPORT_ON_REVISED-550-560-OCT-8-2012

Amendment to 550 ->AFSCREPORT101 (pdf)

15. Why were privacy protection requirements included in the revised documents?
These safeguards were included to provide 4th Amendment rights to privacy protection for individuals
and their property from model aircraft equipped with imaging technology when used for surveillance.
One of the provisions in Federal Law 112-95 Sec 336-2 for model aircraft to be excluded from FAA
regulations requires model aircraft are operated within the programming of a nationwide communitybased
organization (CBO) that has been accepted/approved for CBO status by the FAA. The AMA has
chosen this path in order to operate under its accepted Safety Code and Operational Requirements
including Privacy Protection Safeguards rather than be subject to potentially onerous governmental
regulations with respect to Privacy Protection for those operating model aircraft outside of the CBO
default path. We also had a responsibility to provide operational standards that are acceptable and
compliant within our insurance programming, requiring members to operate their model aircraft
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without violating existing laws which could include first and fourth amendment rights of citizens to
privacy protection in cases where a suit is filed for invasion of privacy as a result of unauthorized
aerial surveillance.


Source: http://www.modelaircraft.org/


Support AMA, be a member. They preserve our rights!
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Taskforce1x1 on February 22, 2013
and section #16...


16. Does the AMA Privacy Protection Statement essential outlaw aerial photography and videoing?
The AFS committee views the updated AMA Privacy Protection Statement as not at all outlawing aerial
photographing or videoing. We believe it’s better for us to have written our own Privacy Protection
Safeguard then leave it unattended; waiting for what very well may be onerous government privacy
regulation. In the US anyone may take photos/videos in public places except when a legal statute or
ordinance exist and when individuals are in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy
such as restrooms, dressing rooms, medical facilities and inside their homes. Property owners may
legally prohibit video/photography on their premises but have no right to prohibit others from
videoing/photographing their property from other locations (which may include from airspace near
their property or 400’ above their property without the use of telephoto lenses while not flying directly
over people or structures). In most locations you may reasonably assume that taking
video/photographs is allowed and that you do not need explicit permission. However, this is a judgment
call and you should request permission when the circumstances suggest that the owner is likely to
object. Taking aerial photos/videos that include a person’s house and property may be fine but doing so
in the fenced in pool area when someone is skinny dipping would not be permissible.
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Taskforce1x1 on February 22, 2013
My thoughts :

If they would attempt to induct such language in a freedom killing bill like that then we are on a path to ban public ground level photography as well. Its all non-sense. If it persists then we all as hobbyists need to fight for our rights. Just because we use cameras in the air makes it no different than the photographer on the ground since we can be in a real aircraft if we wanted to do the same thing for recreational. We can always put in a petition on whitehouse.gov

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/create


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Cameras on RC aircraft might become illegal!!!