My experience with the Naze 32

by Adriaan | December 5, 2014 | (0) Posted in Projects

I read that the Naze 32 was a stable board but was a bit of a head ach to get set up, so i decided to watch some videos on Youtube before deciding on my next flight controller. I was pleasantly surprised by how simple setting up looked and included one in my next order from Hobbyking. I lost my previous quad in a river so basically ordered from scratch, never realised how expensive a 250 quad with FPV gear was! So 2 weeks later the parts arrived, I decided on getting the Multistar Elite 2204-2300KV as the motors pull close to 10amp static I thought 12a esc's would be to little so I opted for 20a afros. I’m using a ZMR carbon frame (a decision ill come to regret soon after).       

Before I started to build I thought I’d take a few photos of frames machining quality, it’s a very shinny frame but if you look closely you will find flaws as with any cheap product.

 

The frame parts just stacked on top of each other u can see how reflective the frame is in this photo, really beautiful finish and the small flaws are really hardly noticeable.

 

Be warned the motors require screws that are larger than the provided slots in the frame arms, a drill bit will make easy work of this however.

 

Sorry about the blurry photo i took it with my phone didn’t know how it came out. But here is the basic flying structure of the quad motors, ESC's, flight controller and wiring harness.

 

Just a different angle and a slightly less blurry photo

Next I simply attached the receiver and then the biggest headache ensued, I’m not sure if it was a bug but I couldn’t get the board to initialize with the switch on my transmitter for hours. After I reflashed it the next day I got it to work and then the moment the Quad took off the pain of a flight controller suddenly seemed worth it! I only have a photo of flying in the house but I took it outside and it was incredibly stable in wind and extremely powerful!

I still had to attach the Mobius camera and FPV gear but it was starting to take shape, this photo I’m still using the orange 433mhz receiver later that day it shorts on the frame burning it out and forcing me to go buy a 2.4ghz module and receiver to carry on flying. i wasn’t sure why it stopped working later on when I shorted out something else I realized it was the carbon frame that was conducting current. 

 

At this point it finally seemed as though I had sorted out everything! It took me 2 days and 2 receivers to get it too work so I thought I’d take it for a flip only for the back left ESC's capacitor to come loose mid-flight. Here’s a video of it happening.

After this I was done with this quad I didn’t realise the 433 receiver was burnt out I thought it was faulty and when the esc failed I couldn’t believe my luck! 2 faulty products in a $500 order and in South Africa there was no chance of getting another 20a Afro esc. I put away the quad for a few days then I started to play with it again I tried to reflash it but this didn’t help it was at this point when I noticed the capacitor came loose, this was a relief as this can be easily replaced rather than waiting 2 weeks and having to pay for a replacement ESC. I have a friend who works in IT and dose maintenance on PC boards and he had a replacement capacitor and soldering it on for me. The old capacitors are all black the new one is blue and slightly smaller.

 

After this the quad was flying beautifully everything was working just fine I was starting to enjoy my new quad and the capabilities of the Naze board became evident I started doing flips and roles, I never realised there was a product as good as this after coming off a kk2 board. It would how ever be mentioned that if the props aren’t balanced the vibrations can cause issues with board. I swapped from the 2 blade 6x3s to 3 blade 6x4.5s as the gem fan 2 blade props were losing blades and would flex heavily in flight. The additional pitch dose made this quad an absolute monster in punch outs considering the battery and FPV gear it is carrying. 

Here’s a video of my quad i do some loops, punch outs and fast runs at full throttle, this new quad is absolutely insane!!!

 

I plugged in a battery and was ready to go again when my naze board wouldn't incalize, i noticed the red light on the naze board wasn't coming on and the recievers power light was out. the i noticed the antena of the reciever had been rubbing againt the frame and when i was changing the battery it must have shorted out when i pressed against it. my heart sank as i realised i just lost my second reciever in the same quad and that this was possibly what happed to the first reciever. 

later that afternoon i stripped my quads base to expose what was causing the issue and was alarmed to discover the heat shrink wore through and the live wire was making direct contact with the frame.

 

The short even left a burn mark on the frame!

 

After doing some over kill with insulation the wires had no chance of fitting between the two carbon layers that make up the base of the frame so I had to cable tie the wiring harness to the bottom of the frame.

 

My friend who helped me with the ESC offered to help me with the receiver and find what burnt out and see if it was possible to fix, so we took the receiver apart and looked all over and we couldn’t find a single thing that was burnt out not a resister or track. We plugged it into a receiver battery and to our amazement it lit up and working fine. We plugged it back into the Naze board but then the receiver wouldn't light up, then my heart sank as I realised the receiver is powered by the Naze board and the short could have caused the board to burn out. We followed the tracks and found a tiny neutral track that was burnt; we made a bridge over the burnt track with a small piece of wire. Once the receiver was plugged in everything was working as normal I couldn’t believe my luck that I managed to avoid any huge damage that would keep me grounded for a few more weeks.

The repair looks cool and makes for an interesting story.

 

Hope you enjoyed my article I took a photo of my quad under my friends hex these 250 quads are impressively small.

 

 

 

 

 

COMMENTS

978142348 on December 7, 2014
哈喽 我来自中国
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Adriaan on December 7, 2014
多久它在您的房子里采取得到部分的药量?
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donnyb on December 12, 2014
Great article. I didn't think the carbon would have such low resistance. Also I would imagine that there was some sort of non conducting coating in the resin they made it with. I been wantingto get the zmr250 since I seen it. I think the other frames are a little too expensive for what they are. I made my 250ish quad frame for about 8 bucks and couple of finger cuts from hobby plywood and a couple pcs of carbon fiber boom, but it's not as crash resistant.
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
Thanks, the carbon has relatively low resistance, if u pass a few amps through it the carbon starts to glow, and to blow a track on the naze board u hardly need any current at all. It is a relatively cheap product so the resin layer covering the carbon is not as thick or insulating as the layer you would expect from a more expensive frame. But for $30 something dollars of ebay if you don't mind waiting is really good value. If I'm honest this frame isn't crash proof its still going to break if you crash hard enough, maby you can get your self one of these as a sort of Christmas present to your self ;)
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donnyb on December 13, 2014
What sort of air time did you get on the battery and what size? Btw glad you managed to keep your naze going, They seem hard to get for the full naze32.
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
It heavily depends on how I fly if I do alot of punch outs, flips, roles and full throttle flying then 3min is alot, I tested it on an amp meter it pulls close to 50amps! at full throttle cause of the props im using, but that is a static test when its actually flying around it will be less but I have done some heavy flying then I land to feel the motors and they are hardly warm. If you want some beast motors I would say look no further than the multistar elite 2204-2300kv. At a hover i pull 9amps so with the 2200 battery that is close to 15min but that's at a dead hover I have managed to get 10min and still land with some power in the battery I don't like to run the batteries too low and puff them up. im using a turnigy 2200 20c 30c busrt pack, for the price you cant beat it, I have 6 packs that i charge in parallel and I spend roughly an hour flying.
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donnyb on December 13, 2014
Lol I'm not that advanced. I'm still at the walking the dog and learning turns. I guess you can say noob! I actually managed to make a circle forwards and backward and backed into a tree. That's where I'm at, but 15 minutes is good practice time!!!!!
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
I have a friend who just got him self a quad and once he finished building it I showed him what is was capable of and he thought if i can do that so easily it surely can't be that difficult. I warned him against not practicing on a simular first but he didn't listen and ended up crashing and breaking one of the arms. What id recommend would be practice on a similar it helps alot and will save u props and maby a frame. 15min for a 250 size quad is very good! If u have no fpv gear and a light frame u will have no problem getting 15min with those motors 6x4.5 props and a 2200 pack
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
the naze boards are open source and don't have the sort of capital to set up a huge production facility with a distribution network, but the lower end boards like I'm using are easier to come by since hobbking have started making them and just paying royalties
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donnyb on December 13, 2014
Value Hobby has some sort of a naze32 10dof I'm not sure what that means but it looks tempting. But I'm getting use to the miltiwii. The only thing I had trouble with was the Arduino software working with windows7. But I hear a lot of good things with the naze board. My only beef with Hobby king is the shipping price!!!! That board might be 80 bucks if I wanted the quick shipping. lol
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
Ya the shipping is ridiculous but they have an American wear house witch might be a better bet for u, but after programming the naze 32 and actually flying it i would recommend it to anyone! The software runs through google chrome internet explorer so u will never have software issues. Maby get a few friends to fill the box with u so the shipping wont be so bad if u decide to order from hobbyking. Aren't there other places in America that stock the naze 32?
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donnyb on December 13, 2014
Actually you be lucky to find a place that stocked any flight controllers at all. Really lucky if they have it in stock. lol Hobbyking usually has their new stuff in the global warehouse for a while before they stock it in USA warehouse. I been looking at the thorax. But I'm waiting till it gets here. lol Unfortunately not a whole lot of friends. lol And the friends I have not into the hobby.
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
Well i wouldn't know they dont exactly have a south african wearhouse haha. Maby just treat your self and splash out its almost Christmas after all and u can add some other stuff to the box i believe the fast shipping is 1kg box even if u ship something thats 50g, i would recommend a prop balancer the vibrations really affect the flight controller and just add some spare props u can never have enough when u still learning. Maby try those motors then for the longer flight times, what batteries are u using and how maby do u have?
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donnyb on December 13, 2014
I use several battery's but I never thought off putting a 2200mah battery on the mini quad. I have several quads. and I use different battery's for them. I built from around a 250 mm to 1000 mm the larger one is simular to the tbs discovery. It was a really long winter here this last year. lol I don't know how cold it gets there bit winter here in the Midwest the ground mat have snow and ice till april. lol So most of the time I been building in my free time and collecting the batterys. I have 2 1300 2 1500 2 2200 4 3300. But they are all low price batterys. Need to watch them after crashes they go unstable and hot.
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Adriaan on December 13, 2014
Just be careful with the c rating on those smaller packs u could puff them if u pull too many amps, we don't really have a winter we just get to wear jeans for a few months a years. If u do fly in winter look into keeping the packs warm u wont get the same performance out of a cold lipo, warm them in your car or just keep them against your body then put them in a thick sock while u fly other wise u will struggle to get 2000mah out of a 3300 battery.
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My experience with the Naze 32