FTScratchBuild-Intermediate
The FT Old Fogey (old timer) scratch built foam board airplane is another addition to the Flite Test Swappable Fuselage Series!
Start with the wing and be sure to note that the wing tip will have a slight curve cut in it. This will create the polyhedral angle in the wing when you glue it.
Use the small triangles as a template for your leading edge angle.
Be sure there are not gaps in your wing tips when you glue them.
When glueing on the second wing tip, have your Swedish friend measure the height of the first tip (from the table) and make sure it's the same.
Chad has a cool tip for creating stronger hinges. Simply spread hot glue into the foam area of your crease and allow to cool. This will create a rubber-like hinge and help keep your paper from tearing.
If you purchased the Old Fogey Speed Build Kits, there will be a few extra steps in your Old Fogey Build process.
The first step is to glue the center of the fuselage. This score cut was added to fit the Old Fogey into a standard sized shipping box and it also ads extra strength to the fuselage.
Squeegy away the excess with a scrap piece of foam, and continue with the build as usual.
This plane is primarily going to use B-style folds. Where the sides will push against the bottom plate. Be sure to watch the plans for when you will be setting up the A or B folds.
When cutting out your old timer, make all the straight cuts first then go back to cut out the smaller notches.
The other difference with the Speed Build Kit version of the Old Fogey, is the added control rod guides, made of foam. This will clean up the inside of the fuselage and keep the control rod from flexing.
Start by spreading out the gaps in the foam to allow the control rods to move freely. Use a BBQ skewer or semi - sharp object increase the gap of the score cuts. Repeat on both pieces.
After that, insert the control rods. Make sure the z-bent end is at the tail section.
Make sure that the rod travels freely throughout the cavity.
Once you are sure that the rod travels freely, apply a single piece of tape over the opening on both.
Bend at the crease and to fit to the inside of the fuselage. Line it up with the fuselage etched guide.
Apply glue to the side that has the opening for the control rod and place on the appropriate side of the Fuselage.
Poke additional holes for the BBQ skewers that will hold the wing on with rubber bands. Continue with the rest of the build video.
The servo tray will be using an A-style fold where the sides will sit on the bottom plate. The power pod is an A-style fold design, in case there's any confusion.
Run your push rods through some tubing or straws and be sure to glue them so there's no binding on your servos.
Run your push rods through the slot in the back to your control horns.
Another cool trick to mount your wheels is to wrap hot glue around the end of the piano wire and when it cools it will create a rubber stopper that will keep your wheel on!
NOW AVAILABLE AS A SPEED BUILD SWAPPABLE! CLICK HERE!
More photos available in the forum!
Build plans:
FT Old Fogey details 1of4.pdf
FT Old Fogey Fuse Plans 2of4.pdf
FT Old Fogey Landing Gear 3of4.pdf
FT Old Fogey Wing Plans 4of4.pdf
Click HERE to see the POWER POD BUILD VIDEO
Excellent video - I love the air to air photography. The videos just keep getting better and better.
By the way, aren't there 28 grams to the ounce? There are in England, not sure about in the USA, where measurements are sometimes different.
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Love the scratch builds!
Eagerly await all there videos.
Nice one Chad.
Cheers from the UK.
Nick.
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Ken :)
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If you want to make it really light as far as glue try one of the expanding poly U glues. You'll need to wet the glue first and then apply a fine bead THEN block and let it setup. They sell a 1 hour version that is set in 5-10 minutes and as hard as it will get in an hour. Best just to scrape the hot glue and try to be a bit frugal while applying.
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I have had a couple of issues with the wing attachments. Mounting and dismounting the wing for connecting the battery has caused the bamboo skewer to pull out and tear out the foam side wall.
Is it better to hot glue the skewer in place? Is it better to back the skewer hole with packing tape and more foam. Same problem is occuring in the area of the skewer holding the electronics shelf in the fuse.
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My opinion would be to maybe run a ring of glue around the hole (lightest weight option?), then put packing tape over the holes on both sides of the foam board before painting. Should make the holes last a little longer. or... glue plastic, or small metal flat washers over the holes..? That would be stronger, but would add more weight.
I'm working on a scratchbuilt swappable flying lawnmower, will post the plans as soon as I get the prototype flying and stable.
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Just curious which Suppo motor that is?
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Turnigy d2826-6 2200kv
1300 mah 2s 25c
8x4 prop
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(Thanks youtuber larrybarrick for this suggestion!)
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Refer to the settings in my above post, select the option as mentioned. Select paper type as A4. Then it will print the plan in multiple A4 copies. You need to overlap those print out and tape them together to form the actual size of the old forgey. Cut out the plan and use it as a template on the form board.
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Definitely going to start building this one. Video was great, very informative. You guys make it look very easy.
Also liked the Friendly-Swede cameo. :)
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Eventhough after flying I have realised that first my motor ( turborix BL2215/25 ) was too much. Secondly the dihedral of about 9.5cm on the wing tips is too much and creates a pentilum effect which makes control of the plane a bit difficult. I am going to try a new wing with less dihedral abou 5cm or even less to check the effects. Please advice if you have any comments or suggestion on that issue.
Thanks for all, keep up the good work.
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Regards, Giorgio
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The inner of readi-board is made in XPS (extruded polystirene) which is exactly the same material of Depron. Readi-boaad is XPS coated with craft paper of some film, I figured out that Depron coated with a self-adhesive plastic film may work the same... but I have no idea of the weight. Has anyone tried, or thought about, to build such a 'home made readi-board' with depron ?
I'm curious...
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I wonder if adding ailerons would make sense.... what's your opinion guys?
Cheers
Giorgio
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But, I'd say go for it, and let us know how it works!
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Martin (UK)
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Hey guys where are you?
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I built my one with 6 mm Depron, tomorrow I'm going to make it fly for the first time...
Hoping that it will fly :-) I will let you know!
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I need to move the CG, it is too behind.
I made the fuselage in coroplast with some depron reinforcement, wings and stabilizer are made in depron 6mm. I didn't reproduce the 'power pod' exacly as from the plans, I made a simple box with balsa and plywood.
Unfortunately it seems that I cannot post pictures here...
Regards, Giorgio
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/giorgiogiorgio/sets/72157638281503553/
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Try and see if they can help.
http://www.piscesart.co.uk/shops/piscesart/Products/PD1936272/Foam-Board/
They are from England
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The shop is called Agostinelli Arte and is located in Dragona, near Rome.
Prices range from 5,60 Euro to 32 Euro(!) it depends on the size and other characteristics.
There are other shops in northern Italy that sells foam boards too.
Feel free to delete this post if you think it is off topic...
Liks here:
http://www.agostinelliarte.com/
https://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=it&geocode=&q=via+donato+bartolomeo+42+roma&aq=&sll=41.908557,12.535998&sspn=0.417494,0.891953&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Via+Bartolomeo+Donato,+42,+Acilia-castel+Fusano-ostia+Antica,+Roma,+Lazio&t=m&ll=41.777777,12.338505&spn=0.019202,0.021372&z=14&iwloc=A
Cheers
Giorgio
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Flies great!
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Also PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond. Mine in CRAZY tail heavy. I've added weight to the nose, but A LOT of weight. Do you guys ever have to add weight to the nose? In the video it looks like your's balanced out perfectly without any additional weights.
PLEASE RESPOND!!!
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http://youtu.be/jgAebr_-6W0
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Also in my case I needed to use a 1000mAh battery put in the very front of the powerpod.
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https://app.box.com/s/cgxgvxu4appae89xkpaq
https://app.box.com/s/f3la0dm2xu9echl49nrv
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Thank you for making the plans available. Since Thanks Giving, I built two FT-22s, two Old Fogeys
an FT-Flyer, NutBall, Delta, Old Speedster, Sportster, and FT Spitfire. Until today, I had only flown the Flyer, which I have proven to be indestructible. I just love building them. It is time to start giving some away. I'm scaring my wife!!!
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This plane is really popular so I wanna give it a try! Can you please tell me how to print the plans on A4? I cannot view it properly. (I have the latest version of adobe reader)
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