Ycopter Quad Motor / Propeller Testing

by ycopter | April 23, 2013 | (5) Posted in Projects

I have successfully used the NTM 28-36 (28mm diameter, 36mm length) motors in a number of multirotor designs, on the YQ2 they work well and have adequate power, but when pushed they get hot. I searched for an alternative with greater current handling, similar weight but still great value for money.

NTM 30-35 motors with 10" X 5 Graupner e-props.


There is no alternative NTM in the 750Kv range, so I went with the NTM 35-30 1100Kv motor which has a larger diameter but shorter can length. Interestingly both motors are around the same weight but they have very different current handling. Here are the specifications of both motors: 

 

NTM 28-36

NTM 35-30

Kv (rpm/v)

750

1100

Weight (g)

87

88

Max Current (A)

18

32

Power(W)

265

380

Length (mm)

36

32

Diameter (mm)

28

35


The 28-36 750Kv motors are a nice match with 10 x 4.7 APC propellers, the higher Kv motors would therefore require a propeller with much less thrust. I had heard that the Graupner e-propellers provided less thrust than other propellers of a similar diameter and pitch, so I decided to give them a try. Here are the test results for both motors:

All tests were carried out with a fully charged 4S battery on the YQ2 Quadcopter (X 4 motors) at 100% throttle.

 

28-36 10” x 4.7 APC slow fly

28-36 10” x 5 Graupner e-prop

35-30 10” x 5 Graupner e-prop

Current (Amps)

50

33

71

Watts

750

495

1050


During flight testing the 35-30 motors performed really well, very high performance and the motors came down cold after each flight.

Verdict - If you want very high speed from the YQ2 and you can afford the Graupner e-props, then go for the 30-35 motors.  They sound smoother and have quite a bit more power.  If this is your first quad then stick with the 28-36 motors until you are used to flying it and are less likley to break expensive props! 

Take a look at this video to see these motors in action:

 

COMMENTS

x3mperformance on April 24, 2013
Hmm, a step up.
And your absolutely correct, keep with the cheap stuff, until your out of "Copter-kindergarden"
Things that fly, are comming Down, some in more greatious ways than others.

Buzz Lightyear quote. - That's not flying, that's Falling, with style."
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ycopter on April 24, 2013
I try to keep things simple, if it can go wrong then it probably will! Where I can I use value for money parts (not cheap, there is a difference). Gravity is unforgiving and claims all of our flying machines in the end.
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saitek93 on April 24, 2013
I always love your videos. They're just always so smooth. You're a great pilot
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ycopter on April 25, 2013
Saitek, thanks for your kind words. The CC3D and frame make my flying skills look better than they are! By the way, you have a very nice quad design, I looked at video from it and it is very clean and stable, well done.


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saitek93 on April 25, 2013
Thanks so much! I worked pretty hard on that frame to get the 3D printed parts to come out right. I've been inspired by your frame to attempt something new that I'll be posting here soon hopefully. I'm basically eliminating all the wires on the quadcopter, but I have finals coming up so it might be a while...
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Corsair2014 on November 5, 2013
why are graupners more expensive if they have less thrust (therefore less efficient) for the same diameter/pitch??
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ycopter on November 5, 2013
Good question, I choose the Graupner e-props for their strength, rigidity and quality engineering. Smooth video is more important to me than flight time; with this set-up the props have a high rotational speed which provides excellent stability. My quad is around 2.2kg and the last thing I want is a prop failure, after many hours of high 'G' flying I have not had a Graupner fail. You could use lower KV motors and use a larger prop diameter with these props, this would increase efficiency if that is what is important to you.
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HilldaFlyer on May 12, 2014
Great Videos - I love them. Can you explain why you chose NTM rather than SK3 motors? They're about in the same ballpark with price. Thanks - HilldaFlyer
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ycopter on May 12, 2014
Hello, yes the SK3 motors look good but as I recall none of them could match the NTMs on current handling. The 3035 1100Kv NTMs can handle 32 amps and come down cold after a high power flight. The NTM bearings are not the best, but they are reliable and very powerful.
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Ycopter Quad Motor / Propeller Testing