Titan Tricopter Part 1: Design

by Zpack | June 3, 2013 | (12) Posted in Projects

Titan Tricopter Part 1: Design

 

This is my first post on an RC forum- I’ve been into RC off and on pretty much my whole life but none of my friends or family are interested enough to get involved, and I live to far away from any clubs. Anyway I’m hoping that getting involved in this forum will help keep me motivated and informed.

I’ve been flying single rotor helis for about 8 years, but I’ve never gotten very good at it. This is because I crash, a lot, and then have to wait a week for parts to arrive. If you’ve never flown single rotors, they are extremely delicate and complicated. Even a light crash would require me to completely rebuild the rotorhead which usually took about two hours if you include all of the balancing and trimming afterword. Then there’s the fact that most of the parts are all unique to each model of heli so the parts are really expensive for what they are.

I’ve never been very impressed with multirotors, the ones I’d seen up until now have always been slow and not super responsive; but things have come a long way and I think that I can finally make the switch from helis without losing the maneuverability that I’ve gotten used to over the years. I settled on a tricopter because the yaw authority seems to be much better, and maybe because I think they look cooler….

I’m an engineer, and a do-it-yourselfer, so I figured I’d design my tri from scratch. This is the list of features I wanted:

  1. Durability- I want to be able to crash this thing a lot and not have to order parts to get it flying again; my goal is to have a tri that can take a major crash and not have more than a few broken zip ties and may be a busted prop or two. I want 4 out of 5 crashes to be repaired for less than $5.
  2. Maneuverability- I want to be able to do everything I could do with my heli (with the exception of inverted flight of course). This means flips, rolls, spins and fast forward flight.
  3. Cost- This goes back to durability, but I also can’t afford a major initial investment either.

I’ll start by saying that my cost requirement got blown out of the sky when I decided I needed to buy a new radio, but that doesn’t really count toward the cost of the aircraft right? At least that’s what I keep telling my wife…

I spent a couple of weeks researching the designs that were already out there, but they all had little things that I wanted to change. Of course I came across David Windestål’s great design, but there were a couple of issues I had with it:

  • I don’t like how the arms are held in place by friction alone, I want something that will positively position the arms and keep them there, but still fold in a crash
  • I don’t know about you guys, but I almost never crash nose-in, it’s usually tail-in or at some other odd angle. So I decided I wanted the tail boom to be able to rotate in a crash as well, plus I want the forward booms to be able to rotate forward in case I crash side-in.

With this in mind, I got started on the design. I’m really blessed to be working at a place with lots of great tools that I am welcome to use for my own projects. This includes a mill, lathe, laser cutter, and about $100k worth of engineering software.

The type of flying I want to do is mainly aerobatic, so after seeing what Matt Hall could do with his setup ( http://youtu.be/T_qKz16NOXY ), I tried to emulate his hardware specs:

  • 2200 4 cell
  • 1350KVs swinging 8x4.5s (They didn’t have 8x4s in stock, I hope they are close enough)
  • ~12” booms
  • Flashed Hobbyking 30A ESCs

I’m using the Multiwii board because the KK2 was out of stock, but I may end up liking the Multiwii better anyway. I’m really excited about autolevel, I would love to let my friends try flying it- “just let go of the cyclic stick if you get into trouble”; maybe I can get someone hooked on RC!

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Ok now we can finally get to my design. Keeping with the durability theme, I went with 10mm carbon booms with wood cores (more on that later), and all of the parts are laser cut 1/8” thick Acetal (delrin). I spent most of my design time working on the arm retainers. I initially was just going to use zip ties to hold them in place, but I wanted to be able to fold them for storage, and I didn’t want to cut the ties every time. What I settled on was this:

 

 

It’s basically just a single o-ring looped around notches that are designed to release at a certain amount of pressure. I cut out several different versions until I got the retention/release balance just right, but I am very pleased with the results. I added a couple of fingers to pinch the o-ring at one point so it doesn’t get lost in a crash. These allow the arms to “break” forward or backward equally, but it is still easy to secure them in place.

 

 

Here are some renders of the TITAN frame so far:

 

 

 

Here is my landing gear (to be held on by zip ties):

 

 

 

And my motor mount (also to be held on by zip ties):

 

 

 

I am almost done with the yaw mech, and I’m really pleased with it. Ill talk more about it in the next installment but here’s a preview:

 

 

Big thanks to Matt Hall (www.simplecopter.com) and David Windestål for inspiration.

I’m hoping to get some feedback so let me know what you think, also feel free to ask questions- thanks for reading, more to come!

COMMENTS

eisbot on June 3, 2013
Nice design! I love the arm retainers. I have built a tricopter and a quadcopter both with the mindset that they will be bashers, but before long I make them into something too nice (in my own eye). I then have heartburn pushing my abilities (limited as they are). This becomes my reason to build the next one - you know to be able to fly it and not worry about crashing it. Vicious cycle, but I love doing the CAD designs (Solidworks) and building them. Can't wait to see the next installment.
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Zpack on June 4, 2013
Thanks- I can totally relate, hopefully this thing will be easy enough to service that I won't get too scared of crashing...
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aura on June 4, 2013
Nice design. I like the boom retainers. Have a comment and two questions.
Comment : Looking at the yaw boom attachment, it looks like you need to beef up the area. Your design has a large horizontal area with a small boom attachment and two an undercut on each side. In case of a crash, it may crack in this area depending on how it lands of course.
Question 1: What's the reason for using delrin. I know its machinable, but so is ABS, which is also impact resistant. What thickness area you using?
Qustion #2: Any way that you will make your design available?
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Zpack on June 4, 2013
Thanks Aura, good points- The space beside the tail boom is intentional, in the event of a crash the tail boom is designed to rotate to one side or the other; the space will allow it to rotate 90deg in either direction.

I forgot to mention this in the article, but I will be using a laser to cut out these parts- and delrin cuts about 10x better than ABS with a laser. If you were machining the parts, ABS would be fine, however delrin is a bit stronger. I'm using 1/8" thick delrin.

I may make the design available at some point; if I do it will be after I work out all the kinks. I may offer pre-cut frames if I think the design is good enough to compete, and if there is enough interest :-)

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aura on June 4, 2013
Thanks for the response. Definitely generating interest.
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eisbot on June 4, 2013
Actually, if you look carefully at the design it looks similar to "common" tricopter tail booms. The difference being the common ones are more rigidly affixed to the central hub. They typically have 2 screws on either side that prevents side to side motion or slipping in or out. The real concern I would have with the tail break away design as presented would be the tail boom flexing (trying to piviot) when yawning, since that would tend to want to displace the oring retainer. This could be overcome by playing with the oring size etc, but if you make it too stiff you are essentially back to the rigid design again.

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Zpack on June 4, 2013
Exactly right, the real trick is going to be getting the balance between having a strong yaw connection and a weak point that will fail easily in a crash- we'll see how it goes!
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DeValk on June 4, 2013
I have to say after building a Tricopter my self you will love how it flies. I pretty much stuck to David's design but with slightly longer booms. I have to say the flying qualities were exceptionally smooth with everything set as it was out of the box. The only thing I changed was I turned down the auto level to 70 from 100 this seemed to make it recover much smoother.
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Zpack on June 4, 2013
Are you using the Multiwii or KK2? I figure getting the board tuned will take a bit of time, but shouldn't be too bad.
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eisbot on June 4, 2013
I have both a KK and a KK2 board both are great, but the auto level is killer (once it has been flashed). For me, who loses orientation easily, the auto level is a much needed lifeline and gives me a bit of time to recover. I am thinking of using the MultiWii for the Tcopter I built to be a basher. As far as the tunning goes - before I flashed it, I could not get it to behave properly. Rock solid after, and very easy to tune since you can do it with the onboard LCD. I think I would get the bluetooth module with the MultiWii for tunning purposes - besides I'll rock the nerd factor and tune it using a phone!
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Corsair2014 on June 7, 2013
looks amazing! can't wait till the next update
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Fatherfox on June 18, 2013
"Keeping with the durability theme, I went with 10mm carbon booms with wood cores (more on that later)" I know I'm dyslexic, but I didn't see the "later" part. Care to elaborate on the choice of booms? Is it because the carbon reinforces the wood and the wood absorbs more vibrations?
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Zpack on June 18, 2013
Ya sorry about that, what I meant was that I would be talking more about that in a future post (hopefully this week). The wood doesn't help with vibrations, but it makes the carbon fiber MUCH stronger. If you've ever broken a piece of carbon fiber before, you'll notice that the failure is on the inside of the bend where there is a compressive force. The wood has a very high compression strength so it compliments the tensile strength of the carbon.
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TheRedBaron on June 18, 2013
I love the look of this. I'm really hoping to see it come to light. Loving the attention to detail.
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bunsel on July 2, 2013
You've really built a great framework.
Can you send me your CAD drawing maybe? Would like to rebuild the copter made ​​of aluminum.
Regards from Germany.
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Zpack on July 2, 2013
Thanks bunsel! The frames will be available for purchase at www.fortisairframes.com in the next couple of weeks. Since I am selling these frames I am a little hesitant to distribute the CAD files, but send me an email at info@fortisairframes.com to let me know what your plans are and I might consider it.
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Titan Tricopter Part 1: Design